Qi Tai came out of Rouyi Hall and bowed to the envoys of the foreign vassals and said goodbye, preparing to go to the cabinet of the Wuying Hall in the south.
At this time, he saw his colleague Qian Xun, watching from a distance.
Qian Xun seemed to have something to do, but did hesitate to come to the gate of Rouyi Hall?
So Qi Tai still walked over and saw Qian Xun, and the two of them bowed.
Qian Xun is a civil servant in his thirties, with a medium figure, an ordinary appearance, and the kind of person who is easily overlooked.He was able to reach his current position entirely because he was born as the chief minister of the Han Palace.
After a few greetings, Qian Xun, who was frowning, sighed, as if he was not so happy to open the topic.
Qian Xun was not too long-winded and said straight to the point: I’m still short of money.The lower official thought about seeking a meeting with the emperor, but he was thinking about this matter and he was a little hesitant for a moment.The solution is to ask Qibutang to mediate, which is really disturbing.
Looking for Xiabutang?Qi Tai was also very straightforward and talked directly about the main theme.
Qi Tai, the Minister of War and the Minister of Cabinet, not only cares about his own affairs, but also has to be responsible for communicating the relationship between various yamen.
This is mainly because there are often differences between the former officials of the Han Palace and the officials of the new yamen and the senior officials of the court.
Qi Tai's identity is special. He is both an old minister of the Jianwen Dynasty and a meritorious official of the crime. He speaks well on both sides, so everyone is often willing to find him.
Sure enough, Qian Xun nodded and said: It's mainly the Ministry of Revenue, but if the Ministry of Works can help and Qi's government also think of a solution in the Ministry of War, things will be easier.
I'm going to the cabinet, let's talk as we go.Qi Tai said.
Qian Xundao: The emperor issued an order to allocate money from the palace treasury and the Ministry of Revenue every year, worth 200,000 guan; at first it was enough, and the Southern Administration could also allocate money to reward officials and craftsmen.But since last year, the money has not been enough, because the iron factory was ordered to produce a batch of muskets and armor that supply Annan Kingdom.
Qi Tai was a little surprised: Annanguo wanted to exchange those batches of things with cocoons and rice, and the goods exchanged should be received by the Ministry of Revenue.The Ministry of Revenue has not allocated money and food to you?
Qian Xun turned his head and glared: No.People from the Ministry of Revenue, the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War all believe that the South Railway Station does not require capital.The Ministry of Revenue also sent an official document to the Southern Administration, saying that there was no money or grain.
He then said in detail: The key to making musket armor requires iron materials, charcoal refining (coking coal), and craftsmen's manpower.Iron materials and charcoal were supplied by the Ministry of Revenue to all prefectures and counties in Zhili, and were transported by county officials and corvee workers from local official kilns in batches.
The craftsmen and military craftsmen were provided by the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War respectively. The two yamen allocated some craftsmen, shift craftsmen, and military craftsmen to serve at the Nanshu Iron Factory.These craftsmen have inherited their father's business and are not allowed to leave their ancestry, and have to pay grain taxes to the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War.The government only supplies grain and salt when the craftsmen work; and the Ministry of Workers and War Department also bears the responsibility of these grain and salt.Therefore, colleagues believe that the South Railway Station Iron Factory no longer needs wages.
Qi Tai nodded from time to time and listened to Qian Xun's narration.
Qian Xun changed his tone and said: But, things are definitely not what they are on paper!Iron materials and charcoal are often not available as scheduled, and the quantity is always short of, so delays are very common; even if the raw materials are shipped to the Nanshu Railway Factory, the quality of the things is mixed... In fact, they are almost all very poor.The Nanshu Office of the Guardian Department cannot reopen the factory. Just put the iron and charcoal back into the furnace?
Many of the craftsmen and military craftsmen who were transferred did not know any skills at all, and some of them were not good at this career. They became craftsmen just because their grandfathers and fathers were craftsmen.Some people who did not come for various reasons were fled, and some lived and craftsmen spent money to hand it over to the branch offices of the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War to exempt them from service; but the people from the branch offices of each county collected the money, but did not hire anyone for the Nan Office.
Qian Xun sighed and said: The emperor has repeatedly told me to make good and cheap ordnance.I have been deeply grateful to the emperor, so how can I deceive my superiors and hide my subordinates and get away with it?
So the officials thought of a way to sell all the raw materials supplied by each county to private mines at a low price, but they couldn't use them anyway; and then paid for the purchase of good iron and charcoal.
Then spend money to hire merchants and transport them to the capital.
For those craftsmen who were useless, the subordinates asked them to pay for the labor service; but the craftsmen were not under the jurisdiction of the Guardian Department, so we could not manage the craftsmen. After they returned to their hometown, most of them denied and refused to pay the money.
In addition, there are also fleeing and shortage craftsmen, which are not enough staff.
The officials could only allocate money to hire craftsmen from all over the country, and used the grain and salt supplied by the Ministry of Workers and the Ministry of War as part of their wages.
As a result, the 200,000 stag of old money allocated by the Ministry of Revenue and the Imperial Palace treasury every year could not be maintained; last year, a large amount of military weapons were added, and the money and grain of the South Administration were constantly deficient, and now they still owed funds from private mines and craftsmen.If we fail to pay back the debt, where can we buy materials and hire people in the future?The South Administration has limited power and cannot control those merchants and craftsmen.
Qian Xun looked distressed and shook his head and said: Originally, the officials had only been the chief minister of the Han Palace. I really didn't expect that the joints in the court were so complicated.
Qi Tai suddenly agreed: Under the six ministries, the supply chains and the management of craftsmen and military craftsmen have always been a confusing amount and no one can make it clear.This is not the blame for the money envoy.
For example, a county in Taiping Prefecture, Zhili is responsible for supplying charcoal with money, but this county may also supply various expenses to ten places; so it is good that the county officials can transport charcoal with you, so how can they require a deadline and good or bad?
After hearing this, Qian Xun finally showed some relief. He hurriedly nodded and said: What Qibutang said is so true, it is really too difficult.And if you touch the whole body, these things are related to the Ministry of Revenue, the Ministry of War, the Ministry of Works, and local officials. There is really nothing we can do about it.
After thinking hard, the lower officials felt that there were only two results.First, let the Ministry of Revenue allocate money; second, the South Railway Station Railway Plant cannot guarantee the quality and construction period of military equipment, and even the quantity cannot be delivered in full.
The latter result was a heavy trust from the emperor; therefore, after thinking about it, the Ministry of Revenue still had to pay the money.Because of the problems of craftsmen, the Ministry of Works and War also has a share, so should it pay for it?
Qi Tai shook his head and said in a deep voice: Don’t rely on the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War; exploiting craftsmen, the central government offices in the capital have not received much, and the local branch has long used various expenses.When we think about it carefully, we are barely maintaining it. There is no way out and we can only try to collect it from local people under our power.
It can still be maintained at the moment, but if the minister wants to do something big, it will definitely not work; unless the emperor comes forward to do it, each government office will find ways to increase the taxes and taxes.
During the Yongle period, Emperor Taizong was preparing to move the capital to Peiping.Now that he ascended the throne, he stopped this major event because he was worried that the people in Shandong and other places near the left of Peking might be forced to rebel. During the "Jingnan Campaign", Shandong and other places were deeply affected by war and had to rest. The government could not exploit too much, and we should not blame the corrupt officials only.(Originally, Shandong's civilian rebellion and local government troops could not be pacified. Zhu Di killed the provincial officials below the commander-in-chief, and countless people died, which shocked the court and the country.)
Qian Xun said: What should I do if I do this?
Qi Tai pondered for a long time, turned to look at Qian Xun, and said: This matter must first solve the urgent problem, and then think about a long-term solution.The long-term method involves a wide range of consequences; you must plan a detailed method and then get the support of the emperor to try it.
Qian Xun immediately said: The lower-ranking officials have urgent needs!Is Xiabutang willing to pay for this money?Or can the inner treasury of the palace be released? The emperor is not laying off palace maids, and there should be spare money in the palace.
Qi Tai shook his head and said: I'll go find Xia Yuanji and Song Li to talk together.
Song Tiju?Qian Xun repeated.
Qi Tai said: There are not enough coins on the market at present, so the silver and copper coins minted by the central bank have been directly used for the imperial expenses in recent years.The amount of additional minting is under the control of Song Li; and the Ministry of Revenue is under the control of the "operation warehouse" for the acceptance of the finished coins.
If the Ministry of Revenue is responsible for the deficit of Qian Enjun, it is difficult to explain the situation where Xiabutang is.So I went to discuss with Song Li to share part of the deficit of the Southern Administration on the central bank's coins, so that Xiabutang would be more comfortable.This method is just a temporary solution, but it can temporarily relieve the urgent need of money.
After hearing this, Qian Xun was so grateful that he kept bowing and thanked him several times.
Qi Tai hurriedly held his arm and said: We are all for state affairs, so the money envoy does not need to be like this.
Qian Xun sighed: Qibutang is really a good minister of the saint.
Qi Tai shook his head and said: What I do is to solve only one thing, not the long-term.I still feel ashamed of the emperor's grace of saving his life and recreating his life and knowing his abilities.Isn’t it really shameful to the Lord of Money so wrongly?
Qian Xun whispered: "Those people" were wary of the so-called new party, but satisfies the bad policies and ignores them; if their colleagues were as capable as Qibutang, how could this happen?Why is Qibutang so ashamed of it?
Qi Tai turned his head and said in a deep voice: The money envoy must not make a mistake. The situation is not so simple; the reason for the current situation is very complicated.If the dormitories are really unbearable, how can the emperor value it?
Qian Xun frowned and said nothing.
Qi Tai advised: I'm afraid the old ministers are also scolding you, but they have different ways of looking at things.If there are only misunderstandings and criticisms between each other, the government may be worse and worse, and it is not as good as before.
After hearing this, Qian Xun bowed: Qibu Hall is lenient to others, and the officials are convinced.
Qi Tai said calmly: Otherwise, why would the Qian Envoy come to me?It’s because I can reach an agreement in front of my colleagues.He paused and comforted him, "Don't be anxious, your deficit is not big, there is more than one way to make up for it."
After the two of them finished speaking, Qi Tai said goodbye to Qian Xun and continued to go to the front hall of Wuying Hall.
The central bank recommended Song Li and Xia Yuanji, the Minister of Revenue, were both cabinet ministers, among which Song Li was a newly entered the cabinet.
When Qi Tai went to Wuying Hall at this time, maybe the two were still in the same place, so Qi Tai didn't have to run around.
At this time, he saw his colleague Qian Xun, watching from a distance.
Qian Xun seemed to have something to do, but did hesitate to come to the gate of Rouyi Hall?
So Qi Tai still walked over and saw Qian Xun, and the two of them bowed.
Qian Xun is a civil servant in his thirties, with a medium figure, an ordinary appearance, and the kind of person who is easily overlooked.He was able to reach his current position entirely because he was born as the chief minister of the Han Palace.
After a few greetings, Qian Xun, who was frowning, sighed, as if he was not so happy to open the topic.
Qian Xun was not too long-winded and said straight to the point: I’m still short of money.The lower official thought about seeking a meeting with the emperor, but he was thinking about this matter and he was a little hesitant for a moment.The solution is to ask Qibutang to mediate, which is really disturbing.
Looking for Xiabutang?Qi Tai was also very straightforward and talked directly about the main theme.
Qi Tai, the Minister of War and the Minister of Cabinet, not only cares about his own affairs, but also has to be responsible for communicating the relationship between various yamen.
This is mainly because there are often differences between the former officials of the Han Palace and the officials of the new yamen and the senior officials of the court.
Qi Tai's identity is special. He is both an old minister of the Jianwen Dynasty and a meritorious official of the crime. He speaks well on both sides, so everyone is often willing to find him.
Sure enough, Qian Xun nodded and said: It's mainly the Ministry of Revenue, but if the Ministry of Works can help and Qi's government also think of a solution in the Ministry of War, things will be easier.
I'm going to the cabinet, let's talk as we go.Qi Tai said.
Qian Xundao: The emperor issued an order to allocate money from the palace treasury and the Ministry of Revenue every year, worth 200,000 guan; at first it was enough, and the Southern Administration could also allocate money to reward officials and craftsmen.But since last year, the money has not been enough, because the iron factory was ordered to produce a batch of muskets and armor that supply Annan Kingdom.
Qi Tai was a little surprised: Annanguo wanted to exchange those batches of things with cocoons and rice, and the goods exchanged should be received by the Ministry of Revenue.The Ministry of Revenue has not allocated money and food to you?
Qian Xun turned his head and glared: No.People from the Ministry of Revenue, the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War all believe that the South Railway Station does not require capital.The Ministry of Revenue also sent an official document to the Southern Administration, saying that there was no money or grain.
He then said in detail: The key to making musket armor requires iron materials, charcoal refining (coking coal), and craftsmen's manpower.Iron materials and charcoal were supplied by the Ministry of Revenue to all prefectures and counties in Zhili, and were transported by county officials and corvee workers from local official kilns in batches.
The craftsmen and military craftsmen were provided by the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War respectively. The two yamen allocated some craftsmen, shift craftsmen, and military craftsmen to serve at the Nanshu Iron Factory.These craftsmen have inherited their father's business and are not allowed to leave their ancestry, and have to pay grain taxes to the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War.The government only supplies grain and salt when the craftsmen work; and the Ministry of Workers and War Department also bears the responsibility of these grain and salt.Therefore, colleagues believe that the South Railway Station Iron Factory no longer needs wages.
Qi Tai nodded from time to time and listened to Qian Xun's narration.
Qian Xun changed his tone and said: But, things are definitely not what they are on paper!Iron materials and charcoal are often not available as scheduled, and the quantity is always short of, so delays are very common; even if the raw materials are shipped to the Nanshu Railway Factory, the quality of the things is mixed... In fact, they are almost all very poor.The Nanshu Office of the Guardian Department cannot reopen the factory. Just put the iron and charcoal back into the furnace?
Many of the craftsmen and military craftsmen who were transferred did not know any skills at all, and some of them were not good at this career. They became craftsmen just because their grandfathers and fathers were craftsmen.Some people who did not come for various reasons were fled, and some lived and craftsmen spent money to hand it over to the branch offices of the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War to exempt them from service; but the people from the branch offices of each county collected the money, but did not hire anyone for the Nan Office.
Qian Xun sighed and said: The emperor has repeatedly told me to make good and cheap ordnance.I have been deeply grateful to the emperor, so how can I deceive my superiors and hide my subordinates and get away with it?
So the officials thought of a way to sell all the raw materials supplied by each county to private mines at a low price, but they couldn't use them anyway; and then paid for the purchase of good iron and charcoal.
Then spend money to hire merchants and transport them to the capital.
For those craftsmen who were useless, the subordinates asked them to pay for the labor service; but the craftsmen were not under the jurisdiction of the Guardian Department, so we could not manage the craftsmen. After they returned to their hometown, most of them denied and refused to pay the money.
In addition, there are also fleeing and shortage craftsmen, which are not enough staff.
The officials could only allocate money to hire craftsmen from all over the country, and used the grain and salt supplied by the Ministry of Workers and the Ministry of War as part of their wages.
As a result, the 200,000 stag of old money allocated by the Ministry of Revenue and the Imperial Palace treasury every year could not be maintained; last year, a large amount of military weapons were added, and the money and grain of the South Administration were constantly deficient, and now they still owed funds from private mines and craftsmen.If we fail to pay back the debt, where can we buy materials and hire people in the future?The South Administration has limited power and cannot control those merchants and craftsmen.
Qian Xun looked distressed and shook his head and said: Originally, the officials had only been the chief minister of the Han Palace. I really didn't expect that the joints in the court were so complicated.
Qi Tai suddenly agreed: Under the six ministries, the supply chains and the management of craftsmen and military craftsmen have always been a confusing amount and no one can make it clear.This is not the blame for the money envoy.
For example, a county in Taiping Prefecture, Zhili is responsible for supplying charcoal with money, but this county may also supply various expenses to ten places; so it is good that the county officials can transport charcoal with you, so how can they require a deadline and good or bad?
After hearing this, Qian Xun finally showed some relief. He hurriedly nodded and said: What Qibutang said is so true, it is really too difficult.And if you touch the whole body, these things are related to the Ministry of Revenue, the Ministry of War, the Ministry of Works, and local officials. There is really nothing we can do about it.
After thinking hard, the lower officials felt that there were only two results.First, let the Ministry of Revenue allocate money; second, the South Railway Station Railway Plant cannot guarantee the quality and construction period of military equipment, and even the quantity cannot be delivered in full.
The latter result was a heavy trust from the emperor; therefore, after thinking about it, the Ministry of Revenue still had to pay the money.Because of the problems of craftsmen, the Ministry of Works and War also has a share, so should it pay for it?
Qi Tai shook his head and said in a deep voice: Don’t rely on the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War; exploiting craftsmen, the central government offices in the capital have not received much, and the local branch has long used various expenses.When we think about it carefully, we are barely maintaining it. There is no way out and we can only try to collect it from local people under our power.
It can still be maintained at the moment, but if the minister wants to do something big, it will definitely not work; unless the emperor comes forward to do it, each government office will find ways to increase the taxes and taxes.
During the Yongle period, Emperor Taizong was preparing to move the capital to Peiping.Now that he ascended the throne, he stopped this major event because he was worried that the people in Shandong and other places near the left of Peking might be forced to rebel. During the "Jingnan Campaign", Shandong and other places were deeply affected by war and had to rest. The government could not exploit too much, and we should not blame the corrupt officials only.(Originally, Shandong's civilian rebellion and local government troops could not be pacified. Zhu Di killed the provincial officials below the commander-in-chief, and countless people died, which shocked the court and the country.)
Qian Xun said: What should I do if I do this?
Qi Tai pondered for a long time, turned to look at Qian Xun, and said: This matter must first solve the urgent problem, and then think about a long-term solution.The long-term method involves a wide range of consequences; you must plan a detailed method and then get the support of the emperor to try it.
Qian Xun immediately said: The lower-ranking officials have urgent needs!Is Xiabutang willing to pay for this money?Or can the inner treasury of the palace be released? The emperor is not laying off palace maids, and there should be spare money in the palace.
Qi Tai shook his head and said: I'll go find Xia Yuanji and Song Li to talk together.
Song Tiju?Qian Xun repeated.
Qi Tai said: There are not enough coins on the market at present, so the silver and copper coins minted by the central bank have been directly used for the imperial expenses in recent years.The amount of additional minting is under the control of Song Li; and the Ministry of Revenue is under the control of the "operation warehouse" for the acceptance of the finished coins.
If the Ministry of Revenue is responsible for the deficit of Qian Enjun, it is difficult to explain the situation where Xiabutang is.So I went to discuss with Song Li to share part of the deficit of the Southern Administration on the central bank's coins, so that Xiabutang would be more comfortable.This method is just a temporary solution, but it can temporarily relieve the urgent need of money.
After hearing this, Qian Xun was so grateful that he kept bowing and thanked him several times.
Qi Tai hurriedly held his arm and said: We are all for state affairs, so the money envoy does not need to be like this.
Qian Xun sighed: Qibutang is really a good minister of the saint.
Qi Tai shook his head and said: What I do is to solve only one thing, not the long-term.I still feel ashamed of the emperor's grace of saving his life and recreating his life and knowing his abilities.Isn’t it really shameful to the Lord of Money so wrongly?
Qian Xun whispered: "Those people" were wary of the so-called new party, but satisfies the bad policies and ignores them; if their colleagues were as capable as Qibutang, how could this happen?Why is Qibutang so ashamed of it?
Qi Tai turned his head and said in a deep voice: The money envoy must not make a mistake. The situation is not so simple; the reason for the current situation is very complicated.If the dormitories are really unbearable, how can the emperor value it?
Qian Xun frowned and said nothing.
Qi Tai advised: I'm afraid the old ministers are also scolding you, but they have different ways of looking at things.If there are only misunderstandings and criticisms between each other, the government may be worse and worse, and it is not as good as before.
After hearing this, Qian Xun bowed: Qibu Hall is lenient to others, and the officials are convinced.
Qi Tai said calmly: Otherwise, why would the Qian Envoy come to me?It’s because I can reach an agreement in front of my colleagues.He paused and comforted him, "Don't be anxious, your deficit is not big, there is more than one way to make up for it."
After the two of them finished speaking, Qi Tai said goodbye to Qian Xun and continued to go to the front hall of Wuying Hall.
The central bank recommended Song Li and Xia Yuanji, the Minister of Revenue, were both cabinet ministers, among which Song Li was a newly entered the cabinet.
When Qi Tai went to Wuying Hall at this time, maybe the two were still in the same place, so Qi Tai didn't have to run around.
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