Qi Tai's plan did not follow the expected process.
But the result was expected.
Qian Xun's memorial went through several twists and turns, from the cabinet to the Dianbao, and then to the imperial front, and finally passed the decision after the court's discussion.
So Qian Xun did not resign; he asked Ru Wei to preside over the Nanshu Iron Factory, but it never happened.
This is the case, and the position of the ministers in the court is very complicated.The situation is not as simple as the political dispute between the old and new parties, and there are many people who are mixed with each other.
A few days later, it happened to be a ten-day holiday.Ru Wei, the Minister of Works, suddenly invited Qi Tai to Longjiang Temple to enjoy incense.Qi Tai also felt that he should talk to Ru Yi and others, so he naturally did not refuse.
Longjiang Temple is next to Dajiang Port, and you can see the river in front of the mountain gate.
Originally, this place was the property of the eunuch Zheng He, which was taken back to the royal family during the Hongxi period; at the beginning of Wude, the palace returned it to Zheng He's old party king Jinghong.
It was drizzling in the sky and clouds in the sky.
After Qi Tai and others got off the bus outside the temple, they saw the boats parked on the river and were difficult to see clearly in the fog.
A group of people walked into this quaint temple with green umbrellas.
At this time, the host personally welcomed him and bowed to him and said, "Amitabha".
After the ceremony, everyone went straight to the Main Hall.
Although there was a merit box in front of the Buddha statue, Qi Tai and others offered a little more money to indulge and oil, so they gave it to a monk at the door and returned it to the merit book.
bite!With a sound of the ground, the monk seemed to remind the dozing Buddha Lord that Qi Tai and Ru Wei both stepped forward to worship the Bodhisattva.
Ru Wei is a man in his fifties. He is very burly and does not look like a scholar.
But he was indeed a civil servant and had the title of Earl.
The titles of the Ming Dynasty were almost exclusively based on military merits, and there were very few people who were granted titles by civil servants, and Ru Yi was one of them.
Seeing that he was so fierce, Qi Tai always felt that he did not believe in Buddhism at all.As for why Ru Wei invited Qi Tai in such a place, it is unknown.
Several people entered through the back door behind the Buddha statue and presided over: The two donors invited me to rest in the vegetarian room. When it was noon, I asked someone to prepare some vegetarian food.
Ru Ying said: I am a master.
The two entered a simple vegetarian room, and the followers stayed in the courtyard outside and walked around the eaves to patrol.
There was a wooden table in the vegetarian room and a cushion on the ground, so Qi Tai and Ru Yi were kind and sat down opposite each other.
This temple is not too quiet, the busy Longjiang Port is too close to it, and the noise in the distance can be heard faintly in the air, as if it is covered with a subtle buzzing sound.
There are indeed few temples in the capital, and I'm afraid only the nunnery on Jilong Mountain is better.
Ru Wei picked up the teapot, poured two cups of tea, and handed Qi Tai one.Qi Tai hurriedly bowed and caught it with both hands.
Ru Wei said: In my foolish opinion, the current political disputes in the court are just the difference between "Tao" and "Skills".The emperor mentioned a word "technology" many times, which is supposed to be the "technology" that supports the new party.However, when the imperial examinations were selected, the policy and arguments were mostly the way to govern the country, so it was no wonder that many old ministers were worried.
Qi Tai immediately replied: Rubutang hit the nail on the head and was talking about the key points.
Ru Ying said: However, it is useless for the old ministers to oppose it because the new party has the support of the emperor.
Since Taizu and Taizong, the emperor has the power to rule over the national policy.When Taizong wanted to conquer Annan and voyage to the West, did the court officials not object?When Emperor Taizong decided to move the capital to Peiping, who would have wanted to?Everyone's industries are in the capital (near Nanjing), where the climate is humid and the population is dense and rich, and the ministers disapprove of moving the capital the most.The result is still useless to object.
Qi Tai said calmly: During the Jianwen period, I first opposed the reduction of the vassals, and then opposed the reduction of the vassals, which was indeed useless.
Ru Wei said again: Of course, you are also prone to forget things.Nowadays, many old ministers look down on the new ministers, probably because they forgot that Yonglechu and many old ministers were liquidated, while Yao Guangxiao, Yuan Gong, and Jin Zhong were among the others.
Qi Tai said: The emperor has repeatedly stated that he does not want everyone to be in danger of his own affairs.He whispered, the emperor once made it clear that the most serious minister would be dismissed from office, and wealth and reputation would be preserved.The emperor would never allow it, and his colleagues ruined a minister.We have known each other for many years, and I will say with all my heart that I am very sincere today.
Ru Wei nodded and said: Although it is inevitable that some people are fighting for power and profit, most people oppose Qian Xun because they are worried about the country.
Qi Tai nodded without saying a word and listened patiently.
Ru Wei glanced at him and said: "There is a great hidden danger to govern the country with "skill".For example, Qian Xun advocated the restructuring of the Nanshu Iron Factory, which at first glance was just a new small yamen, but it also involved the fundamental methods of craftsmen, corvee labor, and local supply.
Qian Xun's method looks pretty good.
The Governor's Office of the Five Army submitted a list of military weapons to the Ministry of War. The Ministry of War proposed the amount of military expenditure to the Ministry of Revenue, and the Ministry of Revenue reviewed the money; the Ministry of War allocated money to the iron plant and accepted the finished products of the Nanshu Railway Factory and the Bureaus... It is equivalent to purchasing military equipment for the official army after the Ministry of War received military expenditure.
If an iron plant gets an order and makes military weapons, it must hire craftsmen under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War, and purchase raw materials from the mining kiln factories established by the Ministry of Works and the private business group.
In order to supply good materials, we must integrate the scattered factories and kilns in each county, and the rules are the same as those in the South Railway Station.
The increased overhead ultimately comes from the Ministry of Revenue.
The money from the Ministry of Revenue first flows into the Nan Office of the Guardian; then flows into the Workshops and Kilns under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of War and the Ministry of Industry, as well as private business groups, as expenses for providing raw materials.
The Ministry of Revenue obtained the money, one was from the central bank's coins, and the other was to allow the Maritime Box Division to collect taxes.The whole rule is closely linked, and it seems to be very strict.
Qi Tai responded.
Ru Ying said: I even think that this set of rules is not Qian Xun's idea, and I am afraid that more than one person will give advice behind the scenes.
Qi Tai didn't agree and pretended not to know.
Ru Wei said: But there is one of the biggest problems in this matter.
Qi Tai couldn't help asking immediately: What?
The process is too complicated.However, it is very consistent with the New Party’s proposition of “governing the country with skills”.Ru Feng said that if the time is a little longer, once the administration is relaxed, the whole set of rules may be corrupt.For example, the craftsmen hired do not have to serve errands anymore, and they also have wages and food and salt remuneration, which is better than the ordinary people. If the wages are relaxed a little, it is inevitable that all kinds of idle people will be ruined by relying on personal relationships and making up for their own expenses.
Qi Tai immediately asked back: If hundreds of thousands of officers and soldiers of the Beijing camp are negligent in governance, will they be corrupt?
Ru Wei was asked for a moment and had to nod and said: It is true.
Qi Tai said: Therefore, to beware of the corruption of all things, we must try to check and balance all parties and rectify all things. There is no way to do it once and for all.In order to make officials more practical, the reform should also involve the administration of officials, so that officials have the opportunity to experience the practice of officials and be well-versed in detailed government affairs before taking office.
Ru Wei looked at Qi Tai and asked: Does Qibutang also support the new party’s proposition?
Qi Tai shook his head and said: I do not completely advocate "governing the country with skills". It is equally important to select talents and appoint talents and be one and one mind.But I still feel that no way to manage the government will be successful.
Qi Tai continued: Li Bing's treatment of Dujiangyan in the Tang Dynasty could not rely solely on inspiring people; the difficulties of the grain transportation in previous dynasties also required adapting to local conditions and obtaining their skill.
We often govern the Yellow River. We can control the flooding of the Yellow River, which is not achieved by loving the people and the innocent heart. Those who are good at using "skills" are very important and often have nothing to do with morality.
For example, the method of "building a dike to bind water and using water to attack sand"; and when breaking a dike, making good use of willow rollers is the key.
Even if a minister with high moral character and respectability does not understand the art of water control, he will never succeed.
The imperial court ruled the government affairs, prefectures, counties and localities, and emphasized the way, because all matters could be maintained; and when the Yellow River broke its dam, it emphasized "technology", which was forced by the way of heaven.
Now the emperor is determined to work hard to govern, and he does not want to see everything maintain it in a slight manner, or reasoning. All loyal ministers, please share your worries with the king without bothering with the complexity and work hard to make progress.
After hearing this, Ru Wei was silent for a long time and bowed: Qibutang is wise.
Qi Tai said kindly again: When the emperor was speaking, there was a saying of "elasticity" and "room". I thought about it carefully for a long time and had some understanding.The emperor supports the reform, but he does not blame or remove ministers at all. Those who cannot do it for the time being have to do nothing but obstruct it, and there is no big problem.This is to avoid party struggles and strive for the common people to be united in one's heart and virtue.
I would rather suggest that instead of attacking the new party, I would try to do better and have a position in the court and naturally remain invincible.New officials such as Liu Ming lacked experience and were unable to do things as good as the old and virtuous officials.Our advantages are obvious, just eliminate stubbornness.
Ru Ying pondered for a moment and suddenly said: The emperor asked Liu Ming to go to the Ministry of Justice to edit laws and regulations to establish reform rules?
Qi Tai said: It's possible.The emperor has always had long-term plans and is always ready for a long time when doing things.Like the general idea of Annan Kingdom, the emperor's preparations date back to the Yongle period, otherwise where did the Empress Dowager Chen and Chen Zhengyuan come from?
Ru Ying sighed and said in a deep voice: I really didn't expect that the emperor was in his thirties and was born in a military force, so he had such a cunning and strategic approach.
Me too.Qi Tai said calmly, but a general who truly uses magical troops must be very strategic and wise.Rubutang loves to read military books, so why not read the "Daily Records of the King of Han" written by the imperial concubine?
Ru Wei clasped her fists and said yes.
After the two of them talked about the main thing, they sat quietly on the cushion for a long time.
At this time, Qi Tai said: There is still a while before lunch.There is a go game here, let’s have two games?
Ru Ying smiled and said: It is better to obey your orders than to be respectful.
After a while, the vague sound of wooden fish came from nowhere, and the sound of singing scriptures also came.
The simple vegetarian room was filled with the sound of Sanskrit, and the atmosphere suddenly changed. Qi Tai suddenly felt a sense of uncontested atmosphere.
However, playing chess game is also a kind of struggle.
But the result was expected.
Qian Xun's memorial went through several twists and turns, from the cabinet to the Dianbao, and then to the imperial front, and finally passed the decision after the court's discussion.
So Qian Xun did not resign; he asked Ru Wei to preside over the Nanshu Iron Factory, but it never happened.
This is the case, and the position of the ministers in the court is very complicated.The situation is not as simple as the political dispute between the old and new parties, and there are many people who are mixed with each other.
A few days later, it happened to be a ten-day holiday.Ru Wei, the Minister of Works, suddenly invited Qi Tai to Longjiang Temple to enjoy incense.Qi Tai also felt that he should talk to Ru Yi and others, so he naturally did not refuse.
Longjiang Temple is next to Dajiang Port, and you can see the river in front of the mountain gate.
Originally, this place was the property of the eunuch Zheng He, which was taken back to the royal family during the Hongxi period; at the beginning of Wude, the palace returned it to Zheng He's old party king Jinghong.
It was drizzling in the sky and clouds in the sky.
After Qi Tai and others got off the bus outside the temple, they saw the boats parked on the river and were difficult to see clearly in the fog.
A group of people walked into this quaint temple with green umbrellas.
At this time, the host personally welcomed him and bowed to him and said, "Amitabha".
After the ceremony, everyone went straight to the Main Hall.
Although there was a merit box in front of the Buddha statue, Qi Tai and others offered a little more money to indulge and oil, so they gave it to a monk at the door and returned it to the merit book.
bite!With a sound of the ground, the monk seemed to remind the dozing Buddha Lord that Qi Tai and Ru Wei both stepped forward to worship the Bodhisattva.
Ru Wei is a man in his fifties. He is very burly and does not look like a scholar.
But he was indeed a civil servant and had the title of Earl.
The titles of the Ming Dynasty were almost exclusively based on military merits, and there were very few people who were granted titles by civil servants, and Ru Yi was one of them.
Seeing that he was so fierce, Qi Tai always felt that he did not believe in Buddhism at all.As for why Ru Wei invited Qi Tai in such a place, it is unknown.
Several people entered through the back door behind the Buddha statue and presided over: The two donors invited me to rest in the vegetarian room. When it was noon, I asked someone to prepare some vegetarian food.
Ru Ying said: I am a master.
The two entered a simple vegetarian room, and the followers stayed in the courtyard outside and walked around the eaves to patrol.
There was a wooden table in the vegetarian room and a cushion on the ground, so Qi Tai and Ru Yi were kind and sat down opposite each other.
This temple is not too quiet, the busy Longjiang Port is too close to it, and the noise in the distance can be heard faintly in the air, as if it is covered with a subtle buzzing sound.
There are indeed few temples in the capital, and I'm afraid only the nunnery on Jilong Mountain is better.
Ru Wei picked up the teapot, poured two cups of tea, and handed Qi Tai one.Qi Tai hurriedly bowed and caught it with both hands.
Ru Wei said: In my foolish opinion, the current political disputes in the court are just the difference between "Tao" and "Skills".The emperor mentioned a word "technology" many times, which is supposed to be the "technology" that supports the new party.However, when the imperial examinations were selected, the policy and arguments were mostly the way to govern the country, so it was no wonder that many old ministers were worried.
Qi Tai immediately replied: Rubutang hit the nail on the head and was talking about the key points.
Ru Ying said: However, it is useless for the old ministers to oppose it because the new party has the support of the emperor.
Since Taizu and Taizong, the emperor has the power to rule over the national policy.When Taizong wanted to conquer Annan and voyage to the West, did the court officials not object?When Emperor Taizong decided to move the capital to Peiping, who would have wanted to?Everyone's industries are in the capital (near Nanjing), where the climate is humid and the population is dense and rich, and the ministers disapprove of moving the capital the most.The result is still useless to object.
Qi Tai said calmly: During the Jianwen period, I first opposed the reduction of the vassals, and then opposed the reduction of the vassals, which was indeed useless.
Ru Wei said again: Of course, you are also prone to forget things.Nowadays, many old ministers look down on the new ministers, probably because they forgot that Yonglechu and many old ministers were liquidated, while Yao Guangxiao, Yuan Gong, and Jin Zhong were among the others.
Qi Tai said: The emperor has repeatedly stated that he does not want everyone to be in danger of his own affairs.He whispered, the emperor once made it clear that the most serious minister would be dismissed from office, and wealth and reputation would be preserved.The emperor would never allow it, and his colleagues ruined a minister.We have known each other for many years, and I will say with all my heart that I am very sincere today.
Ru Wei nodded and said: Although it is inevitable that some people are fighting for power and profit, most people oppose Qian Xun because they are worried about the country.
Qi Tai nodded without saying a word and listened patiently.
Ru Wei glanced at him and said: "There is a great hidden danger to govern the country with "skill".For example, Qian Xun advocated the restructuring of the Nanshu Iron Factory, which at first glance was just a new small yamen, but it also involved the fundamental methods of craftsmen, corvee labor, and local supply.
Qian Xun's method looks pretty good.
The Governor's Office of the Five Army submitted a list of military weapons to the Ministry of War. The Ministry of War proposed the amount of military expenditure to the Ministry of Revenue, and the Ministry of Revenue reviewed the money; the Ministry of War allocated money to the iron plant and accepted the finished products of the Nanshu Railway Factory and the Bureaus... It is equivalent to purchasing military equipment for the official army after the Ministry of War received military expenditure.
If an iron plant gets an order and makes military weapons, it must hire craftsmen under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Works and the Ministry of War, and purchase raw materials from the mining kiln factories established by the Ministry of Works and the private business group.
In order to supply good materials, we must integrate the scattered factories and kilns in each county, and the rules are the same as those in the South Railway Station.
The increased overhead ultimately comes from the Ministry of Revenue.
The money from the Ministry of Revenue first flows into the Nan Office of the Guardian; then flows into the Workshops and Kilns under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of War and the Ministry of Industry, as well as private business groups, as expenses for providing raw materials.
The Ministry of Revenue obtained the money, one was from the central bank's coins, and the other was to allow the Maritime Box Division to collect taxes.The whole rule is closely linked, and it seems to be very strict.
Qi Tai responded.
Ru Ying said: I even think that this set of rules is not Qian Xun's idea, and I am afraid that more than one person will give advice behind the scenes.
Qi Tai didn't agree and pretended not to know.
Ru Wei said: But there is one of the biggest problems in this matter.
Qi Tai couldn't help asking immediately: What?
The process is too complicated.However, it is very consistent with the New Party’s proposition of “governing the country with skills”.Ru Feng said that if the time is a little longer, once the administration is relaxed, the whole set of rules may be corrupt.For example, the craftsmen hired do not have to serve errands anymore, and they also have wages and food and salt remuneration, which is better than the ordinary people. If the wages are relaxed a little, it is inevitable that all kinds of idle people will be ruined by relying on personal relationships and making up for their own expenses.
Qi Tai immediately asked back: If hundreds of thousands of officers and soldiers of the Beijing camp are negligent in governance, will they be corrupt?
Ru Wei was asked for a moment and had to nod and said: It is true.
Qi Tai said: Therefore, to beware of the corruption of all things, we must try to check and balance all parties and rectify all things. There is no way to do it once and for all.In order to make officials more practical, the reform should also involve the administration of officials, so that officials have the opportunity to experience the practice of officials and be well-versed in detailed government affairs before taking office.
Ru Wei looked at Qi Tai and asked: Does Qibutang also support the new party’s proposition?
Qi Tai shook his head and said: I do not completely advocate "governing the country with skills". It is equally important to select talents and appoint talents and be one and one mind.But I still feel that no way to manage the government will be successful.
Qi Tai continued: Li Bing's treatment of Dujiangyan in the Tang Dynasty could not rely solely on inspiring people; the difficulties of the grain transportation in previous dynasties also required adapting to local conditions and obtaining their skill.
We often govern the Yellow River. We can control the flooding of the Yellow River, which is not achieved by loving the people and the innocent heart. Those who are good at using "skills" are very important and often have nothing to do with morality.
For example, the method of "building a dike to bind water and using water to attack sand"; and when breaking a dike, making good use of willow rollers is the key.
Even if a minister with high moral character and respectability does not understand the art of water control, he will never succeed.
The imperial court ruled the government affairs, prefectures, counties and localities, and emphasized the way, because all matters could be maintained; and when the Yellow River broke its dam, it emphasized "technology", which was forced by the way of heaven.
Now the emperor is determined to work hard to govern, and he does not want to see everything maintain it in a slight manner, or reasoning. All loyal ministers, please share your worries with the king without bothering with the complexity and work hard to make progress.
After hearing this, Ru Wei was silent for a long time and bowed: Qibutang is wise.
Qi Tai said kindly again: When the emperor was speaking, there was a saying of "elasticity" and "room". I thought about it carefully for a long time and had some understanding.The emperor supports the reform, but he does not blame or remove ministers at all. Those who cannot do it for the time being have to do nothing but obstruct it, and there is no big problem.This is to avoid party struggles and strive for the common people to be united in one's heart and virtue.
I would rather suggest that instead of attacking the new party, I would try to do better and have a position in the court and naturally remain invincible.New officials such as Liu Ming lacked experience and were unable to do things as good as the old and virtuous officials.Our advantages are obvious, just eliminate stubbornness.
Ru Ying pondered for a moment and suddenly said: The emperor asked Liu Ming to go to the Ministry of Justice to edit laws and regulations to establish reform rules?
Qi Tai said: It's possible.The emperor has always had long-term plans and is always ready for a long time when doing things.Like the general idea of Annan Kingdom, the emperor's preparations date back to the Yongle period, otherwise where did the Empress Dowager Chen and Chen Zhengyuan come from?
Ru Ying sighed and said in a deep voice: I really didn't expect that the emperor was in his thirties and was born in a military force, so he had such a cunning and strategic approach.
Me too.Qi Tai said calmly, but a general who truly uses magical troops must be very strategic and wise.Rubutang loves to read military books, so why not read the "Daily Records of the King of Han" written by the imperial concubine?
Ru Wei clasped her fists and said yes.
After the two of them talked about the main thing, they sat quietly on the cushion for a long time.
At this time, Qi Tai said: There is still a while before lunch.There is a go game here, let’s have two games?
Ru Ying smiled and said: It is better to obey your orders than to be respectful.
After a while, the vague sound of wooden fish came from nowhere, and the sound of singing scriptures also came.
The simple vegetarian room was filled with the sound of Sanskrit, and the atmosphere suddenly changed. Qi Tai suddenly felt a sense of uncontested atmosphere.
However, playing chess game is also a kind of struggle.
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